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    Spud's cycleguy,

    Naming a vast list of vaccine doesn't invalidate my point. I say there's no certainty we'll find one. You say there are many already existing. I say money doesn't solve all problems. You say we never put so much effort in one cause. I say scientific breakthrough can't be ordered like pizza. You say if we put enough effort and money we'll get a breakthrough. I say we need time. You say that in a few months, we'll have a working vaccine.

    If you understand french, I suggest you listen carefully to COVID-19/SARS virus video on Dirty Biology channel on Youtube. Channel name is in English but it's in french.

    With this kind of situation, time is the crucial resource. All other resources are important especially human efforts but time is what's making it troublesome. To buy more time, we use social distancing. We try to get the number of people we meet or can infect as little as possible. Touching other people outside a cold zone is to be avoided. Touching objects other people have touched outside a cold zone is to be avoided unless said objects have been disinfected.

    You won't have that cold zone for football players. They'll be at risk. If we get an effective vaccine in September, we'll start by people in greater danger, people in medical services, essential service people including everybody working for grocery stores, pharmacies or in delivery services, teachers and childhood care educators... Sport players are way down the list.

    A fast estimate gives me around a million people in Quebec are either vulnerable or in essential service. I fear my estimate is too conservative. Supposing Québec gets a million dose for September 15th, supposing it can vaccinate 50,000 people a day, supposing we put football players first after the first million people, we still get to October 6th before vaccinating them. We then wait for two weeks for the vaccine to take effect before the first game...

    I rest my case. You're dreaming.
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    Here is a link to a May 11, fairly long article , that appeared at LeDroit online. "School Sports in Uncertainty"

    https://www.ledroit.com/sports/les-s...930c02405b49e1

    It does not paint an optimistic picture for the possibility of university football in Quebec this season. It talks about the ban on sports until August31 and the difficulty in keeping social distancing rules in sports after that.

    It spends time discussing finances,. The strain on university revenue, the inability to hold fundraisers, suggests that those teams that depend a lot on gate receipts and money from private sponsorships may particularly be troubled( Laval?).

    On aspect I had not thought of is insurance. Insurance companies may impose their own rules, concerning distancing and travel, and suspend insurance if they are not followed. The article mentions this.
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    Founded in 1848, the University of Ottawa adopted its official colours Garnet and Grey, and like many nineteenth-century institutions, the athletics teams were known only by the school's colours. Eventually, a connection was made between the shorthand "GGs" and "Gee-Gee", the common British nickname for a racehorse. The unique Gee-Gees name and iconic logo known today is a result of 170 years of history in Ottawa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spud's Cyclesguy
    These are unprecedented times. People are desperate to get out to sporting events, etc, and if they can't personally attend, at least be able to watch them.
    There's been no live shows with audience, no sports, people have exhausted Netflix, and sports reruns.
    Right, because all major professional sports are going to remain on the sidelines and USports football will be the only game in town The major professional sports have backloaded their schedules to the fall in hopes of a return...right at the same time that any USports football may be played. That is an even bigger reason why USports football would get crushed financially by going pay per view. In what world does Canadian university football carve out a healthy pay per view audience when it will compete against the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, Tennis (French Open moved to fall), golf (Masters moved to fall, Ryder Cup).?
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    Though a season is unlikely to begin with, I'd have to think that if there is a season, Bishop's playing in AUS won't be a part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan View Post
    Though a season is unlikely to begin with, I'd have to think that if there is a season, Bishop's playing in AUS won't be a part of it.
    Without Mount Allison too because New Brunswick has banned all sports events until 2021, making the AUS a three-team conference.

    Right now, the New Brunswick border with Québec is closed until further notice. NB Premier has hinted that he may re-open the borders with PEI and Nova Scotia sometime this Summer but added the border with Québec will take longer, thus making it difficult for Bishop's to travel to Nova Scotia, unless they charter a plane, which is not the best idea in the present times. Anyway, would Nova Scotia accept a football team from Québec (48 players plus coaches and staff), although not from the Montréal area?
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    Laval just posted this on their facebook page:

    Nous prévoyons que la présence physique des étudiantes et étudiants sur le campus sera réduite au strict minimum cet automne afin de respecter les exigences fixées par la Direction de la santé publique.»
    Do Laval fans have any comment on this?

    Note : A friend at uOttawa sent me this statement.
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    Founded in 1848, the University of Ottawa adopted its official colours Garnet and Grey, and like many nineteenth-century institutions, the athletics teams were known only by the school's colours. Eventually, a connection was made between the shorthand "GGs" and "Gee-Gee", the common British nickname for a racehorse. The unique Gee-Gees name and iconic logo known today is a result of 170 years of history in Ottawa

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    It might be a good year for the remaining AUS and AFL teams to play together as club teams, if there is any opportunity to play at all.

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    Here's the other problem: Will people be allowed to cross provincial boundaries? Manitoba is down to virtually nothing and could likely be back to normal tomorrow, provided nobody else is allowed entry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ottawafan View Post
    Laval just posted this on their facebook page:

    Do Laval fans have any comment on this?
    Essentially, Laval is following suit with other Québec universities to offer mostly online courses next Fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Here's the other problem: Will people be allowed to cross provincial boundaries? Manitoba is down to virtually nothing and could likely be back to normal tomorrow, provided nobody else is allowed entry.
    Provincial boundaries are open. The Charter doesn't allow for their closure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottawafan View Post
    ​*** these provisions do not bode well for Varsity sports

    Atlantic universities remain optimistic about fall semester





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    [FONT="]Universities across Atlantic Canada hope to resume normal operations this fall, but top administrators remain unsure what kind of restrictions will be in place come September.
    Restrictions could limit the number of people allowed on campus and which courses could be taught in person.
    Allister Surette, the chair of the Association of Atlantic Universities, said university presidents thought it was time to issue a statement to students that their institutions would likely be open in September and that they would be safe places to be.
    "We just want to assure the students that we will do all that we possibly can to ensure their health and safety for this coming September," he said. "So, what that really means is that we will definitely abide by all the public health directives that will be given at that time.
    "This will be different. Classrooms will be different, student life will be different, research and campus gatherings, it will all depend on physical distancing."
    Physical distancing will be a factor
    Other on-campus offerings such as bars and restaurants, as well as sports venues, will also have to abide by physical distancing rules.***
    Surette said although planning is underway, there are many uncertainties surrounding what campus life could like in the fall.
    "In terms of the classroom, it's still not quite clear," he said. "We're hoping for the best in terms of some type of campus presence. The worst case would be that we could not be on campus.
    "We'll do what we can to offer what we're normally doing, in maybe a different way, in September."
    Universities are concerned travel restrictions could limit the number of international students starting their studies this fall.
    Concerns about out-of-province enrolment
    They are also concerned restrictions may have an impact on the number of out-of-province students coming east to continue their education.***
    But Surette said application numbers "seem good at this time."


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    There is still 4 months out.... the good thing about football is that it is played outside. Safer for fans and players. If it takes place, there would be a shorter season, less travel, fans attending would have to be kept at a safe distance apart. Some teams don't attract a full stadium to begin with, they struggle to bring in much of a crowd, so fans can be positioned, places safety apart, fairly easily.

    What will it take for Ontario to allow more sports leagues to reopen facilities? - check out the video
    https://www.tsn.ca/video/what-will-i...lities~1955429

    Ontario Football Conference delays decision
    https://www.saultstar.com/sports/loc...elays-decision
    The Peterborough release also talked of how there remains hope “the summer season can still be played” pending “further government information to come in mid-to-late May.”
    The release discussed the belief “the province will be announcing revised COVID-19 measures again around May 15.”
    Canada West releases modified 2020-21 schedule for university sports


    In the fall sports, the 13 men’s soccer teams will be split into Pacific and Prairie Divisions and play 10 games, while the 16 women’s programs will follow the three-division format in a 10-game schedule instead of 14 games.
    Football will see six teams play each other once in a five-game schedule as opposed to the usual eight, while new provisions are also in place for women’s rugby 15s, women’s field hockey and the championship sports of cross-country, curling, golf, swimming, wrestling and track and field to continue in 2020-21.It all hinges, of course, on getting clearance from health authorities in all four provinces. But, for now, it’s at least something to look forward to in a barren sportscape.
    https://www.thetelegram.com/sports/f...sports-448518/

    Canada West cuts back games and travel for 2020-21 season due to cash constraints
    As part of Monday’s format announcement, UBC football is set to play five regular season games instead of the usual eight. An exact schedule for the T-Birds and others will be announced as a return to action becomes clearer, Hamilton said.
    While there's no guarantee anything will take place, we don't know what's going to be happening in September, that's a ways out yet.

    Canadians to help develop, test potential COVID-19 vaccine by Chinese company
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/vacci...sino-1.5566216

    Chinese coronavirus vaccine could be tested, manufactured in Canada
    https://business.financialpost.com/p...ed-in-canada-2

    MLB owners approve plan to start season in early July: report
    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/coronaviru...y-11-1.5564414
    The CFL hasn't given up on staging a 2020 season but has postponed the start of training camps — which were to open this month. It has also pushed back the beginning of the regular season — which was to begin June 11 — to early July, at the earliest
    There won't be large crowds of course.

    Maybe Universities can work something out with the CFL and they can work together to help the CIS and CFL to get maximum viewership,
    Whether that be through local tv coverage, or video coverage
    CBC, ESPN, Sportsnet, Channel O, TSN, CHCH etc, for sports coverage,
    https://www.oua.ca/sports/fball/2016...20161020hwsgss

    https://usports.ca/en/news/2019/11/1...dcast-partners

    http://www.tvasports.ca

    Maybe Jim Mullin will have some answers.
    https://charlatan.ca/2019/11/midway-...rts-streaming/
    https://www.chch.com/personalities/justin-dunk/
    https://3downnation.com/category/news/

    It's not like these sports announcers have tons of work on their plate right now, so they need the work also. It would be a good gesture. A win win for all.
    So to help offset low fan attendance, they can offer games on tv or video

    49 Sports Network, Sports Canada TV,
    TELUS Optik TV. Bell MTS Fibe TV. TVA Sports 2.
    https://sportscanada.tv

    https://charlatan.ca/2019/11/midway-...rts-streaming/

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...nada-1.4935923


    Again, I'm not saying the season is certain to be a go, but I'm not writing it off either just yet, with reduced schedule, less travel, fewer fans in the stands and working with various media to get some coverage during this unprecedented times. All sports will see shorter seasons and people have been deprived of anything for so long, there should be positive and creative marketing to support local teams.
    Everything goes in cycles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    Provincial boundaries are open. The Charter doesn't allow for their closure.
    Yeah, the most they could really do is set up checkpoints, like Saskatchewan is already doing for travel to the far north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilligan View Post
    Yeah, the most they could really do is set up checkpoints, like Saskatchewan is already doing for travel to the far north.
    Did you know that the Quebec Police have been setting up checkpoints on a random basis at the bridges between Ottawa and Gatineau. They ask the purpose of your trip. If they deem it not necessary they tell you to turn around and go back.

    https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/quebec-pol...neau-1.4933620
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    Provincial boundaries are open. The Charter doesn't allow for their closure.
    New Brunswick has shut down traffic from Quebec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    New Brunswick has shut down traffic from Quebec.
    There is nothing that you can be charged with for crossing a provincial border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    There is nothing that you can be charged with for crossing a provincial border.
    Legally no different than going to La Loche right now. That doesn't mean that the people manning checkpoints will be happy to let you go through. Once you start defying the police or disobeying public health orders, then it isn't about provincial borders anymore.

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    Both UofS and Regina announced today that they are planning for fall term classes to be completed online. If they follow through on that I’m guessing it’s curtains for fall sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    Both UofS and Regina announced today that they are planning for fall term classes to be completed online. If they follow through on that I’m guessing it’s curtains for fall sports.
    This sounds a bit more hopeful.

    Game plan almost set... if sports resume on University campuses

    EDMONTON -- The Canada West Athletic Association, which includes schools like the University of Alberta, issued a new plan that may allow athletes to compete if sports return.
    The CanWest board of directors approved new formats and schedules for regular season games in response to the ongoing pandemic.
    Overall, there will be fewer games in a shorter period of time, and less travel for Universities that have less funding for athletics.
    https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/game-pla...uses-1.4936775

    Canada West university sports conference reducing schedules for next season
    The Canada West conference is cutting schedules and reducing travel in many university sports for the 2020-21 season because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
    The conference said Monday it has had ”significant disruptions to member finances” during the crisis.
    Canada West says the change will allow for games to occur in a shorter amount of time if COVID-19 restrictions limit the usual competition period.
    Football, one of the first sports to start, will go to five games from eight during the regular season
    .
    https://www.lacombeexpress.com/sport...r-next-season/

    Huskies sports teams to play under revised formats for 2020-2021
    The University of Saskatchewan Huskies sports teams will be playing under alternate formats for the 2020-2021 season because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
    The Huskies football team would play a five game schedule and would play each team once. The conference currently has six teams and some teams would play more road games than home games. Evan Daum, Canada West Associate Director, Communications and Marketing, says there are no plans for neutral site games.
    https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/huskies...2021-1.4936143

    We'll watch any sports at this point

    https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sp...570377571.html

    And while there's a possibility there may be no games.....a lot depends on what happens between now and then - in the next weeks, month or so.

    https://nationalpost.com/sports/loca..._autoplay=true
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    That plan is a best case scenario, based on acknowledgement from the athletic departments that finances are going to be very tight and an 8 game schedule is not economically feasible for this year. It is a contingency plan - the conference would be negligent if they didn't have a plan where football might be able to be played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    There is nothing that you can be charged with for crossing a provincial border.
    Right. But then, you can be sued for not respecting directives linked to the emergency law. These can scale up fast. A group of people playing soccer in Montreal got 1500$ fine, each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    There is nothing that you can be charged with for crossing a provincial border.
    I don't think that's true.

    Emergency powers are pretty extensive. Provincial authorities have closed down entire regions for weeks around here. If your travels weren't deemed essential you were turned back the way you came from. If you resisted it's pretty clear that the only place you were going was jail.

    The emergency directives have power of law and override pretty much everything.

    Of course if you cross without being seen and are later 'caught' I agree, can't see any charges being brought against you.
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