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    Exactly, this is just a matter of banning someone...

    Exactly, this is just a matter of banning someone simply because you don't agree with what they are saying. And yes, he is one of few discussing actual science with references, while the majority sit...
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    So are you suspending Sylven? Or perhaps more...

    So are you suspending Sylven? Or perhaps more aptly, censoring him?
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    Yep, it's all the rage. Call anyone who disagrees...

    Yep, it's all the rage. Call anyone who disagrees with your opinion a Covidiot, antivaxxer, conservative, or conspiracy theorist but never address the real substance of their concern. Fortunately...
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    Thanks for your reply Wildtype. I think we have...

    Thanks for your reply Wildtype. I think we have flogged this poor horse to death! Obviously we agree on some things but not others and I think it's pretty clear from the discussion here where the...
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    It's true that the letter is an opinion but there...

    It's true that the letter is an opinion but there is a tonne of published science behind those recommendations, as most of those scientists have been directly studying various aspects of Covid since...
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    My apologies Sylven, I just noticed that you had...

    My apologies Sylven, I just noticed that you had already reference the Barrington Declaration. I'm glad that this is gaining momentum. Critical development IMO.

    By the way Gilligan, disagreeing...
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    Here's an open letter from some pretty...

    Here's an open letter from some pretty credentialed scientists (initial signatories are all at the bottom of the letter - have a look on the link).

    Link: https://gbdeclaration.org/



    I came...
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    I think we both know this is not about my ability...

    I think we both know this is not about my ability to interpret published science. It's more about your refusal to acknowledge emerging evidence that Covid is not nearly as lethal as initially...
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    Hmmm. Imagine that. Finally some acknowledgement...

    Hmmm. Imagine that. Finally some acknowledgement from the MSM and the WHO, even if still framed in skepticism. It's hard to admit you're wrong but better late than never.
    ...
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    Well, one of us is referencing the CDC and the...

    Well, one of us is referencing the CDC and the other is dividing two numbers off of worldometer. But somehow I'm an unscientific conspiracy theorist. Go figure.

    The numbers presented in that...
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    3-6%? From the CDC's own website updated on...

    3-6%?

    From the CDC's own website updated on Sept 10th, 2020

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

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    Perhaps you should give them a call and let them...
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    It seems that the people and the Institute for...

    It seems that the people and the Institute for Policy Studies disagree with you.

    US Billionaire Wealth Surges $434 Billion as Unemployment Filers Top 38 Million

    What happened during the first...
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    Another great piece from AIER A Primer for the...

    Another great piece from AIER

    A Primer for the Media on Viruses, Vaccines, and Covid-19
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    I don't inherently trust any media source,...

    I don't inherently trust any media source, whether it's MSM or alternative media. I examine articles on a case-by-case basis. It's called critical thinking.

    Most alternative bloggers go it alone...
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    Fixed that for you. :)

    Fixed that for you. :)
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    Meanwhile, in Belgium: ...

    Meanwhile, in Belgium:


    open-letter-from-medical-doctors-and-health-professionals-to-all-belgian-authorities-and-all-belgian-media
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    Wildtype, the author of that article didn't do...

    Wildtype, the author of that article didn't do the IFR, CFR comparison himself. He merely presented those findings on his blog for his audience. The actual publication was authored by some professors...
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    You sure have a lot to say about an article you...

    You sure have a lot to say about an article you supposedly didn't read.
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    COVID – why terminology really, really matters...

    COVID – why terminology really, really matters

    Great summary and a pretty easy read.

    And the primary publication on which the author bases is editorial is here
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    I never said Sweden’s deaths are going down...

    I never said Sweden’s deaths are going down because of herd immunity. What I did say is that despite never locking down, schools remaining open, no masks, and no major distancing policy, people are...
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    Except one country locked down and is likely to...

    Except one country locked down and is likely to do so again and the other didn't. So if we are talking about the economic and social trade-offs of a policy decision, I would consider that the graphs...
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    Well, whether they have immunity or not, they are...

    Well, whether they have immunity or not, they are wide open and no one is dying anymore. I know it's hard for you to believe this but maybe, just maybe, there's something you don't know about Covid....
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    Even the CDC has revised their IFR estimate down...

    Even the CDC has revised their IFR estimate down to 0.26%. Perhaps it's time to design policy off this new number instead of Ferguson's outrageous number. This is not rocket science but when you're...
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    Exactly. I think we know what the "news" says....

    Exactly. I think we know what the "news" says. Stay home, cancel your life and wait for a vaccine. Got it. How about GFY.
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    Only one of those links is to an actual study...

    Only one of those links is to an actual study SCG. The rest is "news".
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    Yawn. There will be no bridging this gap.

    Yawn. There will be no bridging this gap.
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    https://unherd.com/thepost/nobel-prize-winning-sci...

    https://unherd.com/thepost/nobel-prize-winning-scientist-the-covid-19-epidemic-was-never-exponential/

    Well I guess you and Nobel Winning Scientist Michael Levitt will have to agree to disagree...
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    Easy enough to skip over the metaphorical parts...

    Easy enough to skip over the metaphorical parts if that's not your thing. I read the whole article in five minutes. But to each his own.
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    https://www.aier.org/article/save-yourself-stop-be...

    https://www.aier.org/article/save-yourself-stop-believing-in-lockdown/

    Great piece. Cue the attacks of the website but not the specifics of the article.
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    1303 Meanwhile, Sweden is averaging basically...

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    Meanwhile, Sweden is averaging basically one death per day in the month of August.

    Kids are in school and were in the spring as well, everything else is open and no masks.

    Why aren't...
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    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/opini...

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/opinion/opinion-we-are-infectious-disease-experts-its-time-to-lift-the-covid-19-lockdowns/amp

    Great piece, imo.
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    He has his critics for sure, especially since he...

    He has his critics for sure, especially since he spends a lot of time criticizing mainstream media. That will typically result in a lot of op-eds and smear jobs of the type you have linked to. Same...
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    Matt Taibbi from Rolling Stone has written quite...

    Matt Taibbi from Rolling Stone has written quite a bit about this topic. I would encourage you to have a look at it.
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    You should take your own advice as well Gilligan.

    You should take your own advice as well Gilligan.
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    Trump is an idiot and a liar. The Dems just...

    Trump is an idiot and a liar. The Dems just sabotaged Bernie Sanders for a second time so that they could install their pro establishment candidate (Joe Biden) and maintain status quo. Take your...
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    Plenty of fake news on both the right and the...

    Plenty of fake news on both the right and the left. US news is unwatchable. It plays out like a day time soap opera. If you want to get to the bottom if things you have to dig deep and always check...
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    Yeah, I think it is way too early to declare the...

    Yeah, I think it is way too early to declare the Swedish policy a failure. Sweden has recently been doing antibody testing and published the results in the Lancet, which is considered top level...
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    Unfortunately all news related to Covid-19 is...

    Unfortunately all news related to Covid-19 is being vetted through the never ending US political cycle and upcoming election. Experts are being trotted out on both sides and the media spin is off the...
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    Agree. Poverty also kills in great numbers. It is...

    Agree. Poverty also kills in great numbers. It is not downplaying the virus Gilligan, it is simply acknowlecging that there are very real tradeoffs in terms mortality that are not being acknowledged...
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    The reality is that we don't know the the actual...

    The reality is that we don't know the the actual mortality rate until we know the actual numbers infected. Many people get infected and recover without ever experiencing symptoms (or having only mild...
  41. Congrats Dinos! Well done!

    Congrats Dinos! Well done!
  42. Take the FG, no? You need one.

    Take the FG, no? You need one.
  43. As that big Dino Dman sitting? They are missing...

    As that big Dino Dman sitting? They are missing his push.
  44. If the Dinos don't hang on here, their kicker...

    If the Dinos don't hang on here, their kicker should shoulder a huge part of the blame. Montreal has had awesome field position all day long.
  45. Not a huge fan of conservative play calling by...

    Not a huge fan of conservative play calling by the Dinos.
  46. Yeah, questionable spot for sure.

    Yeah, questionable spot for sure.
  47. I can't believe that the Dinos were not ready for...

    I can't believe that the Dinos were not ready for that trick play.
  48. More bad tackling by the Dinos

    More bad tackling by the Dinos
  49. Difonte is having a horrible day. It may end up...

    Difonte is having a horrible day. It may end up being the difference in this game.
  50. Huge stuff. What a push that D line is getting.

    Huge stuff. What a push that D line is getting.
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