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    Congratulations Jim!

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    Woot! Congrats Jim! They got the very best man for the job. Hopefully you'll manage to help grow back minor football while preserving the health of our kids.
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    The future of football in Canada is in the grassroots. Growing the game at the minor and high school levels in the way to develop ownership among players, coaches, administrators, and most of all, fans. Few develop a love for football once they are past high school age. Good luck Jim in stoking interest in football among the youth of the nation.

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    Congratulations Jim!

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    WooHoo! Congratulations, Jim!
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    Excellent news, Jim. You deserve it 100%!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hymie View Post
    The future of football in Canada is in the grassroots. Growing the game at the minor and high school levels in the way to develop ownership among players, coaches, administrators, and most of all, fans. Few develop a love for football once they are past high school age. Good luck Jim in stoking interest in football among the youth of the nation.
    100% this.

    I coach in York Region (catchment population over 1M) and the league itself has pretty much disbanded. We are down to two HS's that will run 12-on-12 football this year. Last season there was 1 team playing 12-on-12 in an exhibition schedule across US and Ontario teams while the "league" ((5 teams) played 9-on-9 ball. That is dead this year. We haven't even had JV HS football in the area for the past couple years save for two schools.

    5 years ago we had 7-8 or so JV teams with 9-11 Varsity teams. Oddly enough what started this decline is lack of available coaches. Schools are relying on community coaches for most of the coaching staff which is difficult to achieve when school is over at 2:30pm.

    Pretty sad.

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    Congratulations Jim!
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    Congrats Jim!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACYL View Post
    100% this.

    I coach in York Region (catchment population over 1M) and the league itself has pretty much disbanded. We are down to two HS's that will run 12-on-12 football this year. Last season there was 1 team playing 12-on-12 in an exhibition schedule across US and Ontario teams while the "league" ((5 teams) played 9-on-9 ball. That is dead this year. We haven't even had JV HS football in the area for the past couple years save for two schools.

    5 years ago we had 7-8 or so JV teams with 9-11 Varsity teams. Oddly enough what started this decline is lack of available coaches. Schools are relying on community coaches for most of the coaching staff which is difficult to achieve when school is over at 2:30pm.

    Pretty sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACYL View Post
    100% this.

    I coach in York Region (catchment population over 1M) and the league itself has pretty much disbanded. We are down to two HS's that will run 12-on-12 football this year. Last season there was 1 team playing 12-on-12 in an exhibition schedule across US and Ontario teams while the "league" ((5 teams) played 9-on-9 ball. That is dead this year. We haven't even had JV HS football in the area for the past couple years save for two schools.

    5 years ago we had 7-8 or so JV teams with 9-11 Varsity teams. Oddly enough what started this decline is lack of available coaches. Schools are relying on community coaches for most of the coaching staff which is difficult to achieve when school is over at 2:30pm.

    Pretty sad.
    I assume two HS are Crothers and Huron Heights?
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    Congratulation Jim. I think you're the right man for this.
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    Great move for football in Canada. Congratulations Jim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveBreatheFootball View Post
    I assume two HS are Crothers and Huron Heights?
    Yes sir. HH has found a home in CISAA this season but only because St. Mike's temporary killing of the program due to their scandal last fall. Crothers played 9-on-9 last year and has decided to move towards a "prep school" model and is trying to schedule 12-on-12 games for the fall. They made the decision late so hopefully they will be able to fill out a solid schedule of games.

    1MM catchment population and only two 12-on-12 HS teams. Crazy.

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    For starters, search all threads with «USports» or «CIS»; you'll have enough ideas for the next 30 years....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACYL View Post
    100% this.

    I coach in York Region (catchment population over 1M) and the league itself has pretty much disbanded. We are down to two HS's that will run 12-on-12 football this year. Last season there was 1 team playing 12-on-12 in an exhibition schedule across US and Ontario teams while the "league" ((5 teams) played 9-on-9 ball. That is dead this year. We haven't even had JV HS football in the area for the past couple years save for two schools.

    5 years ago we had 7-8 or so JV teams with 9-11 Varsity teams. Oddly enough what started this decline is lack of available coaches. Schools are relying on community coaches for most of the coaching staff which is difficult to achieve when school is over at 2:30pm.

    Pretty sad.
    Ontario is sinking into oblivion. School over at 2:30? Pathetic land of future soccer players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Ontario is sinking into oblivion. School over at 2:30? Pathetic land of future soccer players.
    Even as an Ontarian I never understood the appeal of schools starting at 8 or 830 and ending at 1400 or 1430. For one my HS started at 9 and ended at 1515, and it worked out well for me bc. I would often stay up late for fun.

    I think schools can certainly start and end much later.
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    Can't think of a better pick!! Congrats and well deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveBreatheFootball View Post
    Even as an Ontarian I never understood the appeal of schools starting at 8 or 830 and ending at 1400 or 1430. For one my HS started at 9 and ended at 1515, and it worked out well for me bc. I would often stay up late for fun.

    I think schools can certainly start and end much later.
    Start times are often dictated by busing. If one school starts at 8 and another at 9, the school board can use the sames buses to service both schools.

    The bigger issue is the lack of teacher-coaches, and thus, the dependence on outside coaches for whom 2:30 or even 3:30 start times for practices are problematic.

    My son's bantam league coach coached high school football for many years but the only way he could do it was to work steady midnight shifts. That is not an easy thing to do physically or mentally. Most people would never make that sacrifice and he eventually stopped doing it.

    The high school football situation in Ontario is very different from one location to the next. And it often varies greatly between the public and catholic school boards in the same jurisdiction.

    There are no simple answers to fixing the problem but the place to start IMHO is by creating "booster clubs", for lack of a better term, to support HS programs. Many of the best programs already have them - Huron Heights & Nelson, for example. I'd guess they are non-existent at 90% of Ontario HSs with football programs. It is an absolutely critical step in Rush Probst's famous Building A Championship Football Program 12 Months A Year and the best way to influence a school board or principal who may be thinking about dropping football. Also, a great way to support a teacher-coach who is tiring of "doing it all by himself".
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter.gryphon View Post
    Start times are often dictated by busing. If one school starts at 8 and another at 9, the school board can use the sames buses to service both schools.

    The bigger issue is the lack of teacher-coaches, and thus, the dependence on outside coaches for whom 2:30 or even 3:30 start times for practices are problematic.

    My son's bantam league coach coached high school football for many years but the only way he could do it was to work steady midnight shifts. That is not an easy thing to do physically or mentally. Most people would never make that sacrifice and he eventually stopped doing it.

    The high school football situation in Ontario is very different from one location to the next. And it often varies greatly between the public and catholic school boards in the same jurisdiction.

    There are no simple answers to fixing the problem but the place to start IMHO is by creating "booster clubs", for lack of a better term, to support HS programs. Many of the best programs already have them - Huron Heights & Nelson, for example. I'd guess they are non-existent at 90% of Ontario HSs with football programs. It is an absolutely critical step in Rush Probst's famous Building A Championship Football Program 12 Months A Year and the best way to influence a school board or principal who may be thinking about dropping football. Also, a great way to support a teacher-coach who is tiring of "doing it all by himself".
    YES. YES. YES.

    If anything, greater presence of parents and local community would help. A booster club would be great way to (re)start things of course.

    Back when I was high school (just little over four years ago), my alma mater HS, North Toronto Collegiate, was usually able to fund and support many extracurricular experiences (sports, performing arts and others) because we were reaping off the benefits of the alumni association and music parents' council that helped the student council in being able to pay for what was needed. In my case, it helped lowering the costs for international trips (e.g. exchange between a Copenhagen-based Gymnasium and HS vocal program, a choral-orchestral tour to Boston and performance in Roy Thomson my last two years of HS). I was very lucky to have received the support from foundation and will be looking to give back in future as well.

    Unfortunately, we have enough issues with quite a few school boards (especially the TDSB), where they are trying to take away many specialised programs, optional attendances and other things (e.g. fundraising) that could benefit individual school communities: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...orce-1.4365502. My alma mater was lucky we've had the alumni association in place for many years before they started legislating against it on governmental basis, but many others don't have them and it affects these schools too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mullin View Post

    The Football Canada National Office is in Ottawa. Jim. Will you be moving to Ottawa?---or will you be coming to Ottawa often to visit the staff at the National Office?
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